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Hi Luca, Yes! Thanks very much for the info. One question, though. I want to go out of the amp's pre amp out into the mixer, feed the effects via mixer sends and return the effects to the various mixer channels. Then, take the L/R mixer outputs into the returns of two guitar amps - the one in which I took the original pre amp out signal and another guitar amp - to get a stereo spread. Here's the big deal though, I want my original guitar signal (post mixer preamp and pre fader) to go out the L/R mixer outs back into the amps. I want to blend the original, uneffectd guitar signal with the effects, thus keeping the integrity of the original guitar sound. How do I do this? I've experimented with using a stereo jack coming out the "guitar" insert and running into a reverb, but my guitar signal goes away as soon as I turn up the "mix" control on the amp - thus feeding more of the effects signal into the amp's effects loop. the guitar signal is fine over at the other amp. Anyway, I hope this isn't too confusing. Additonal help is greatly appreciated! 3 cheers for Luca and the group! Thanks, Michael At 10:34 AM 1/1/01 +0100, you wrote: >Hi Michael, >sorry, but I still can't post it directly to your address, so i make it >public: > >this was the reply couldn't get through... > > >Hi Michael, >> > Hi Luca! Thanks for the great info. I have a question, though. I'm >not >> > sure how to use the inserts to get a signal w/o having a signal going >into >> > the channel of the insert, first. Something has to provide signal to >the >> > insert, yes/no? >the inset you find in these mixers (i'm sure about the allen&heath, don't >know about mackies, but it is a very common feature) is designed to put a >stereo cable in it: the end of this stereo cable is divided into two mono >jacks: one is a "send" and the other one a "return". This is done to allow >you to put a dedicated compressor/eq into each single channel, after its >preamp. >BUT, if you put a mono jack with your signal coming from the preamp and >you >insert it NOT completely, you are using it just as return. In other words, >you are going into that channel strip bypassing its preamp; this is >exactly >what i've been doing for a lot of time and should solve your tone >preserving >needs. > >> > What i want to do is use the guitar amp's pre amp (effects) send, and >go >> > into the mixer while bypassing the mixer preamps. Then, somehow send >signal >> > to various effects after/bypassing the mixer preamp stages. >> > >> > Then, return the mixer outputs into the effects loop returns of two >amps, >> > thus creating a stereo spread. >A very important thing is: you have your "dry" mother signal on channel 1, >then you have different auxes to work on (i choosed allen & heath because >it >is having 6 auxes that can be switched pre/post fader). >Use each aux couple to feed each stereo processor inputs. >BUT, don't put these effects' outputs into the aux returns: their outputs >should go into different channels. >Why ? >Because in this way you can send effects outputs into other effects' >inputs. >This opens up a wide range of possibilities.... did you follow me ? >I know it is sometimes difficult to explane this routings in words, tell >me >if i haven't been clear enough. >Plus, if you run out of auxes,you can start using the groups' sends to act >as semi-auxes. > >Let me know if it works, >my best, >luca > >> > >