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If the idea is to do something unorthodox with a cello -- I cheer "Yeah! A wonderful thing!" Try some of these on: Perhaps something that would combine perfectly with your cello concept -- Z. Vex Tremolo Probe - controllable "a la theremin" so your body proximity controls the effect. Look! No wires! A nice visual thing too. http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/zvextremprobe.html Very flexible, but no midi/ http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/mar00/articles/line6.htm "The Wiggler" - and guitar-y Near the bottom of this page -- http://www.gtrheaven.com/new_pedals.asp?ven=310&m=none And one more... http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/PEThrob.html I hope you get wacky with it. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Stahl" <alex@pixar.com> To: <gary@friendlyspider.com>; <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: Re: Vibrato pedal for a cello.. > With all due respect, I'd suggest practicing wiggling your wrist. > > I don't say this from any sort of acoustic chastity, at all. In fact, > some of my best friends are bowed strings played through pitch > shifters. I built an electric 'cello in 1979 and still play the > electric contrabass I made in 1977, through every Harmonizer(tm)-like > device I can lay my clumsy hands on. I've programmed triggerable, > randomized envelopes for depth and rate, and used weird MIDI pedals > that output their rate of change as well as their x-y position to > control the best Eventide algorithms. > > I love the variety of textures and timbres that can be discovered > down this instrumentation avenue, but I have never achieved a > "realistic" vibrato effect. Maybe I'm a little picky, having spent a > few years as sound guy for the Kronos Quartet, but for what it's > worth, my advice is use the effects for what they are, not for what > they might be like. > > -Alex S. > > > At 9:27 AM -0500 9/17/02, Gary Phillips wrote: > >Hey gang.... > >I need a vibrato pedal, possibly with > >external control, for a unique purpose. > >I'm a guitarist, but I recently purchased > >an electric cello. It is going to be a while > >before I learn decent vibrato technique > >and I've had this idea that could get me > >utilizing the cello in recording a lot sooner. > > > >I want to run the cello's output to a vibrato > >pedal that I can control with a small lever > >attached to the bow. I don't know whether > >I can get away with controlling only speed > >or whether I'd need to control depth as well. > >But I was wondering if there might be a pedal > >out there that could do the job. I could even > >hack into the rate knob of the pedal and use > >a small potentiometer rigged to a lever on > >the bow.... or just use the pot/lever as the > >pedal for a MIDI controller. Any ideas > >would be appreciated. I am looking for a > >pedal that will give me the most realistic > >vibrato effect. > >-- > >gary > >@friendlyspider.com > > > >PS: Ever heard of Hans Reichel ? > >Luthier, musician, animator.... > >This guy is way cool: > >http://www.daxo.de/ > >http://www.yuxo.de/ > >