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> Well, not to get into an off topic flame war, but the one time I saw him do a > song with Elton John, it seemed like he was just saying the words he had > written with no regard to the song's meter or structure. Like rather >than > craft a line with a specific number of sylabols and put them in time in > relation to the beat, he just said them as fast as he needed to before he had > to let Elton do his part. No flames assumed, don't worry - differences of opinion are most often constructive... :o) I'm not sure it's fair to judge Eminem according to a show-case duet with Elton - whose style is clearly incompatible with Marshall's... :o) Have a listen to the Real Slim Shady or his latest single - I've been seriously inspired by his rhythm stuff. Not since Bone Thugs 'n' Harmony first came out, or Freestyle Fellowship have vocalists had such an obvious influence over the way I approach rhythm... (required listening - 'First Of Tha Month' by Bone Thugs, and 'Innercity Boundaries' by Freestyle Fellowship) Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk