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Hey Mark, I guess the gender of the name is there if you figure out what is the family name and what the given name...:-) I like these misunderstandings we face all the time in today's "interracial" world...and there are lots of those, like the teachers at my former grammar school (one of them a Latin teacher btw) who thought that "Luca" was a girl because, all first names ending on "a" are females (as exemplified by the famous composer Andrea Gabrieli). And it really gets interesting with outer-occidental cultures where first names aren't necessarily given names... Rainer Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs > corrected me, but what-ever. My ignorance of the implied > gender of her > name (is there one?) was a mistake based on ignorance, as > opposed to a > mistake based on stupidity and social retardation, like the one > described below. > > Mark Sottilaro