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I also used to work in IS in an all Mac media dept at the San Francisco Art Institute and we never had a drive fail the time I was there. Nothing so bad Norton or Disc Warrior couldn't handle. And to be honest, a true hard drive failure, as opposed to file corruption is hard ware, not software. Nothing to do with the OS, really. Macs have always used decent SCSI or ATA drives. Sometimes they fail, but that's the nature of reality. Nothing to do with what OS is on them. Good thing you're no longer working in I.S and you've secured a position as an email list ranter. Mark Sottilaro On Thursday, October 10, 2002, at 11:09 PM, MIKO wrote: > You wanna know the truth... from a former associate director of IS