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"My point is that most folks don't have the tools to understand music the way almost all of us here do." ...or the knowledge. the things that make me smile/think/laugh about music are the subtle things... sometimes technical things...what i put into my music, well, i write things that interest me...like playing a phrase in 7/8 over a part in 5/8 and waiting to see what happens since it will start cycling. i just don't think that the majority of listeners will catch this stuff but it's really the meat and potatoes of what i try to do. of course, you can't explain every subtle nuance of a tune to everybody so that they'll hear it through your ears and i suppose that's the beauty: that two people can like the same thing and have totally opposing reasons for doing so. however, does knowing more about music make us capable of liking it more...as in: "i can like this music better than you can"? i assert that ignorance does limit appreciation...it's not as thorough and not as deep (in a quantitative way) and seems to be more of an aesthetic judgment (the ignorant can only say "does this please my ears?") rather than an honest appreciation and understanding. this all is not to say that my taste is of a greater value, because that's an inflation of the worth of somebody and i'm not going there. -jim