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Will think about a reply and send to you personally, Mr. To Die For. By this I do not mean the first HTML reply that I sent. I may not know the answer, but I hate leaving desperate souls in states of complete self-reliance. It's best to offer clues until they make it to the space of their own insight, at least. Sorry to others for posting this advance-of-reply reply. -----Original Message----- From: Amleto [mailto:tosleeptodienomore@supereva.it] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 7:46 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: I'm really sorry... I'm really sorry, excuse me, i sended you my mail in html, i was sure it was turned off..., i repeat it now: Hallo all You, I'm Sergio, I'm writing from italy, and I'm sorry for my english... I have a problem and the solution it is urgent! I have ordered a boss rc20 thinking it was the only looper. And now i know maybe it is the worse. Or anyway not the one i need. I have really a few time to stop the order. Well, i could try tomorrow even if you not answer me and wait for your answer. i'll do it, but i hope you'll answer soon... I am a young actor, even if my interests in music are strong. I saw a show by an alternative japanese group who did something in real time with voice. Very dramatic! I think they where using something like delay too and echo and reverb, but mostly they used loop. Sound on sound... I find it very useful. Well, i will explain what i would like from a looper: 1)to be able to record a sound which can last long (the global loop should definitively last longer that 10 seconds or 20. At least 1 or 2 minutes i think, even if it is difficult to know it now without any practical experience. I should create a sonic atmosphere on wich to act. So i would use it for voice, or maybe also keyboard. And i think i will need a long time). 2)to be able to record other sounds on the first one, overdub, sound on sound, i think those are the terms. 3)to be able to change the time of the global loop, and, if it is possible, of a single loop. Yes, I would really like to be able to change time to each loop. I know from your site that most of the looper have a limited time and limited loops. If there was limited time but unlimited loops could have been impossible to remember the position of a single loop. But with 10, for example, i could. And would be useful to be able to change volume and tempo, and also pitch, of each loop. 4)to be able to let me choose which loop to stop. In the order i want. If i have ten loops going on, i would like to stop all for a while and then start all again, and then to stop the first, then the fourth, then the last, for example. At least the last, and the new last, and so on, alias, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0. even if i should remember the order of any loop... I would prefer to be able to stop in the order i prefer. It would be unpleasant just to have to stop all or nothing! I could rerecord some of the loops again, but i should act while loops are playing, so i cant stop acting to sing a loop again... 5)to be able to choose both two of these: that if for example i have two loops, and the first is shorter, i should both let the first go on continuosly even is going out of phase, or let the first wait the end of the second and then to start again togheter... That's all. For a looper. If i could have some effects... I would like delay, reverb. Basically. Wonderfull if distortion, echo, and others... Edp seems the right one. But it is at least the double of price. I'm buying a boss rc20 for 375 euro, i think the same in $$. I don't know, i would remain without money but if you tell me that with the boss i can only record ten loops and let them go togheter and stop them togheter, mmm. Also i think to understand that edp has got some effect. Dl4 too, but the time of a loop is really too short. For me. I just have fear that i can't find here in sicily the memories to upgrade the time of the edp to those 3 minutes that should be enough for me. CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME??? So, i am truely (i sincerely would not like to let you loose your time if i could loose it for you) unable to understand by myself wich one of all the possibilities does what i want. ah, all in real time absolutely, live performance... I sincerely thanks you... Sergio