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I'm also a big fan of structured improvisation, especially in a group setting. Does anyone else have any "rules" that they find useful? We often jam over a random arpeggio (a sort of midi loop) that defines a key and tempo. I suppose that audio loops can be used the same way. Clifford Novey wrote: > My friend and I arrived at a similar idea when working on a concept > based composition. It is 30 min- 3 min each on the diff branches of the > Quaballic (sp) tree of life symbol. Originally we planned on it being > 100% improv each time- however as time went on we found ourselves > agreeing that certain things that we created were worth keeping in > future performances- things like "at the beginning of this section > player A creates a loop/bed of low rumbling tones while player B plays > ascending single notes" etc. I am still using this concept and find it > very useful. It allows for some structure you can follow but in no way > predetermines what exactly you will play. It fits rather nicely with > many loop techniques as the process by which you may create your loop/s > is known in advance while WHAT you will create is not. I really like the > idea. > > Cliff > > www.om-studios.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: ernesto schnack [mailto:schnack@mailbolt.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 10:44 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Practice, rehearse, perform > > On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:40:49 -0800, "Mark" <sine@zerocrossing.net> said: > > I'm thinking of abandoning my 100% (except for drums sequences) improv > > method of live > > music because I'm realizing that it's just too hard to be "there" all > the > > time. > > I had a bit of an epiphany about this last night. I tend go for 100% > improv too, but it's so hit and miss...I realized that I tend to > gravitate towards certain patterns, so I could make "process > compositions". Something like "For this piece, I'm gonna record a short > chord, then switch to reverse and add some harmonics. Then I'll pass > them > through a filter..." and so on. So the action would always be the same > and would make up the "composition" but the notes would be improvised. > Of course I don't see myself following that strictly, but it's a nice > way > to have a gameplan and have a little consistency...I think...I haven't > actually tried it yet... > > Ernesto > > -- > ernesto schnack > http://schnack.does.it > > -- > http://fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service?