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Douglas, <smile> thanks for your wonderful compliments and comments. Flattery and intelligence will get you everywhere! lol! I too really like where this thread has traveled. Defining or understanding the concepts of practicing rehearsing and playing in a concrete way can lead to all sorts of revelations and ideas. It's wonderful to see them all flow together in the moment. We're capable of some pretty amazing creativity! <smile> I love it!... anyway, thanks again, yer' a sweetie!... Catch ya on the flip side... Smiles, Cara At 09:40 PM 11/14/02 -0500, you wrote: >Goddess wrote: > >> <smile> What about "up here?" lol! no ego here... lollollol! > >Yeah, well, being a Goddess and all, you should know! lollollol! >When I added the hypothetical comments about "practicing" when one should >be >performing, I was pointing towards a different attitude than the positive >chaos that you obviously embrace (and isn't the positive chaos lucky for >that!). I'm sure you (and most poster/readers) knew what I was alluding >to, >but I like your comments all the more because they shed a new light on the >process. Point by point: > >> I've actually done exactly this on several occasions. -played >> instruments I'd never played before in a live performance setting. > >And I'll bet, from what I've heard of your music, that there was >*something* >that made your choice appropriate. Sympathetic and supportive fellow >musicians, perhaps, and/or an audience willing to take a risk along with >you. > >> additionally, I've been asked literally, two minutes before a show to >play >> material I'd not rehearsed, and was not familiar with, with people I'd >> never met, upon simply one of them hearing what I've done >> improvisationally. > >And again, knowing you, you brought a wealth of practice and rehearsal to >that moment. > >Also, regarding the idea of rewiring one's gear or some >> such idea on stage, -don't we do something very similar to this in the >face >> of limitation or unexpected circumstance such as technical difficulties, >or >> strings breaking and such, which might not be the easiest to deal with >at >a >> moment's notice. We adapt. We are creative in front of an audience, >and >> practicing new ways of performing as we perform. So in my examples >above, >> am I practicing or playing, or both? The whole idea of improv itself >as >> it relates to these concepts is also very interesting. Is it practice >or >> play? <smile> -Is it live or is it Memorex?... lol! > >Each aspect - practice, rehersal, performance - is a state of being, and >we >can recognize several states at once. I sure do. Very often I'll be "up >there" and simultaneously thinking of things like, "Jeez. Got to work on >some new voicings of quartal chords tomorrow. The drummer just played a >cool >rhythm; can I answer that? Oh! The other guitarist is 'showing' me a >different lick to go along with this part of the song..." Or I may be >doing >some routine practicing, and something I play might wake me up and I'll >realize I'm suddenly performing some previously unheard music - I become >the >receiver of the music, the performing musician, and the audience listening >all at once. > I began this thread as a commentary on Per's excellent description of >a >performance as demonstration. I find it useful to frame my response to any >performance in the context of: Was it a demonstration? An invigoration? Or >(in the rarest of instances) do I feel moved? I often feel that performers >and audiences cheat each other out of a genuine opportunity to move higher >by reverting to "unconscious demonstrations;" the performer merely >demonstrates the appropriate sounds/motions, and the audience demonstrates >the appropriate response. Per obviously provided a clear and literal >demonstration, and made room for moving toward higher ground because of >it. > But, y'know, I just love where this thread has spun off into. And I >have >to go to sleep. Love to all and every one. > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~thefates Please visit The Guitar Cafe. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the-guitar-cafe