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At 2:54 PM +0000 11/22/02, goddard.duncan@mtvne.com wrote: >so I suppose we should be thanking brian "two revoxes" eno for the >legacy, not fripp. but steve reich and les paul had both done it >earlier anyway. Before Frippertronics there was Terry Riley's "Time Lag Accumulator." This consisted of two decks with the tape threaded from one the the other. According to Terry, the technique was "invented" by a French radio engineer who was assisting him on a theater project in Paris, 1963. Terry had been composing with tape loops and sound on sound since 1959 and the two-machine delay was developed as a response to his request to the engineer assisting him. When Terry returned to San Francisco he turned others on to the technique. Pauline Oliveros was particularly active from the mid-60s on with the use of live tape delays. Jon Hassell had also been independently developing a loop-based performance practice since 1960. These techniques were therefore common currency among the musical avant garde when Eno turned Fripp on to the idea in the early '70s. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com