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Mark, In a message dated 11/25/02 8:32:11 AM, sine@zerocrossing.net writes: >Uh.... OK. Who? Is he on this list? If so, drop me an email off list. No, he's not on the list (as far as I know). He's the original inventor developer of Kai PowerTools. KPT Bryce, MetaSynth, etc. I don't know why in partcular Richard would think Eric Wenger would be available, but check out : http://www.uisoftware.com/PAGES/index.html and you'll see why he'd certainly be interesting to work with. He may (or may not) be in the bay area. I don't know where the company is located. Eric is from France originally. Who knows wgere he resides. tEd ® kiLLiAn http://www.mp3s.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.htm http://www.mp3.com/Ophelia_Pancake