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HI All, am away on holiday until tomorrow, but finally finally FINALLY! got to play with my new baby!, an EDP! Woohoo! The first time I layed my hands on it this evening, I set the quantize to 16 and went totally glitchy to a dear friend playing hymns and christmas carols on her electric dulcimer synth, it worked out strange and wonderfully. <smile> I also just happened to record it! Woohoo! Anyway, -love the 16th quant and replace bit bunches! I'm using it along with undo to create some wonderfully organic and evolving glitchinessessessessessessessess... lollollol! Anyway, love it bunches! Have a wonderful evening All!... Smiles, CQ At 04:02 PM 11/29/02 -0800, you wrote: >Damn, Steve, you're gonna pull me out of retirement...! > >Steve Lawson wrote: > >> I'm just getting into it, especially in replace mode - have you done any >> polyrythmic stuff with switching 8th=? during a piece > >I personally haven't, but if you're interested in 8th-quant polyrhythms, >try this on for size: > >1) Plug a pedal into the feedback hack >2) Set Insertmode to Substitute >3) Set Interface mode (under "loop/delay" parameters) to either Stutter >or Replace > >The reason for number 3 is that, because the pedal controls feedback in >these modes, the actual front panel knob becomes a "Substitute Feedback" >control. Which simply means that you can adjust how much of the >original loop will still be heard when using Substitute. > >If you turn the front feedback knob all the way to the left, then >Substitute will cover up all of the original material in the loop. If >you turn it all the way to the right, then Substitute basically becomes >Overdub - you can still hear the original material in the loop after >you perform the Substitute function. > >So, you could lay down a 4/4 groove in a single-cycle loop, and then set >8th/cycle to, say, 5. If you start doing 8th-quantized Substitute >business with the front Feedback knob full right, then you'll get these >5:4 polyrhythms happening, but it'll be a truly audible polyrhythm, >because you'll still be able to hear the original loop content (because >you turned the Feedback knob all the way to the right in Stutter or >Replace mode). > >Jesus, that reads a lot more complex than it actuall is, I promise. > >> - any conceptual ideas to pass on? > >Me? Conceptual ideas? What on Earth are you talking about?! Now if >you'd asked for good beer recommendations... > >- I like using 8th-quant with Substitute a lot, because it's a very >surprising, subtle, and smooth way of changing things. You can play >stuff into the EDP and not have any idea how it's going to sound until >you hear it back. But because 8th-quant is on, it will automatically >have a highly rhythmic quality. Kind of like giving glitch-core a nice >suit and a haircut. (Can you tell I need to get out of the house more? >And get a haircut?) > >It's particularly cool if you set the 8th/cycle value to a higher value >than you could realistically play in real time, i.e. putting 8th/cycle >to 16 at a tempo where one cycle = 180 BPM or so. > >- Use some variation when you're doing 8th-quant stuff. Hold the >replace button down for different lengths of time to introduce some >variation in the length of the replace/substitute action, to get away >from the "step sequencer" feel, and try adding a few drops of silence by >hitting the button without playing anything into it. > >Or try doing lots of replace/substitute in one part of a loop, but >leaving the rest of the loop unaltered, for a sort of post-Timbaland >start-stop effect. (Dude, I'm giving away all my good tricks here...) > >- Like Per said, 8th-quant in conjunction with changing speed is a lot >of fun. > >> I'm kind of experimenting with glitchy FSU stuff at the moment, > >You're well on your way to being the first guy to open for both Level 42 >and Autechre... > >> but wondering about more predictable processes and outcomes... > >...which is interesting to hear you say, since I find 8th-quant most >useful for UN-predictable outcomes. It does impose a more assuredly >rhythmic effect, but I find that when I know precisely what I want to do >with Replace stuff, I like having Quantize off, because I can be more >accurate and exact with the way I use it. > >8th-quant is like automatic transmission, and unquantized is like >driving a stick. > >> Anyone with an EDP who hasn't got Loop IV yet, you are missing out on so >> many very very cool features... get it, and let the features teach you >some >> new stuff... :o) > >True dat. And mad props to Andy Butler for coming up with 8th-quant in >the first place. > >As is horribly apparent by now, I'm in very dire need of a brisk walk >and a cup of coffee... > >Most best, > >--Andre LaFosse >The Echoplex Analysis Pages: >http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP > > Goddess Your BadFiction Moderatrix E-Mail: TheFates@earthlink.net or BadFiction-Owner@onelist.com "For Show and tell today, I brought in this leaf... You will note, that I left the tree where it was..." -Sally Brown-