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Hi, i've found , thank to Gary (wonderful person), informations about Digitech Gnx3... I never saw you talk about it so i think maybe someone of you can be interested on it. I visited the site, downloaded manual, and wrote to users found on harmony central. It seems very interesting, as a rc-20 but with 8 separate tracks for looping, undo, effects, amp simulation, cabinet simulation, and also act as a multitrack recorder, with up to 128 mb smart card to extend sample time (with 3 sampling frequencies available)!!! You can also merge tracks, if you have all 8 full, you can merge in one of these even if it is full too. And you can continue so. You can control each track volume and other parameters. Well, no time stretch, no several loop position to do loop cueing, and it seems that in loop mode, jamman based, the loop lenght is decided by the first track recorded. So if you record a short drum you will NOT be able to record a long solo after. No multiply or similar. But i'm wondering about a possibility: in multitrack mode you record a track, then another etc. Then You have a song. I think a song is even just one track. So, for playback there is an option: song repeat mode. In this mode playback of that song repeats continuesly. It seems as a loop in some way. It seems from the manual (they allow manual download as Roland does not, but, as Roland, they has an orrible customer service) that it is possible while the song is playbacking in repeat mode to record other tracks. And i'm wondering if i can use this espedient to have not the loop lenght decided by the first track. I explain: if in multitrack mode you can record a short track on track one and a long one, after, on track two, if you record a short track on track one, play it back in repeat mode as a loop, and then record a long one on track two, you should have the loop lenght adapting to track two... But digitech support wasn't very helpfull at all in understanding this... Anyway... Sergio p.s.: I've asked if someone could sell me a repeater. I said no to many people because i had said yes to one of you. Unfortunately he changed idea and posted it without telling anything to me and when i fount out this and i asked why he told he did a mistake to do such a good price to me. I'm surprised as for some people it seems that the fact that they are not seen through the screen make them think that there is not ethics anymore... I don't think so, i respect people and what i say to them. So,now thanks to him i'm without repeater because other people sold their one, and on ebay actually there are only for shipping within US. If Gnx3 could have time stretch and could have a multiply or being able in multitrack mode + song repeat activated to allow me to record a long solo after a short drum, i would not need a repeater maybe. But it seems not able to do this. And so, i still need a repeater. Please contact me privately if anybody has got one... And please, tell me if you change idea! Ciao, Sergio Excuse my emotive outlet