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> > I have the Eurouack 2642 $400, 16 channels in > > plus extra returns, > > six sends, sounds great. plus you can use the 2 stereo sub groups as stereo sends. ...and there's 4 extra stereo inputs, 5 if you count the 2track return. and direct outs( + inserts) for 8 of the inputs Total overkill to use this for looping :-) best thing is you can reconfigure the setup order of all your devices on the fly without unplugging I used it last weekend to mix 10 people mostly with a number of 'instruments' enough inputs to do that and put a jamMan in an aux for looping the vocals. ....and sounded good too worst thing is to then get a rack system with the mixer on top and find it's too heavy to move .....................................duh! andy butler