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I've just had a wonderful afternoon with a Tascam Portastudio I got for $20 and an endless answering machine tape. The classic lo-fi four-track 30-second looper. I left the patch cord from my normal rig in track 1 and used a footswitch to punch in and out, switching the record buss to a new track when I got 30 really great seconds going. I generally used the "tape cue" section to mix the tracks out to the phones jack; using the mix section sends all the actively playing tracks to the currently recording track, which can be a fun way to pile up tracks too. I'm sure this has been done many, many times by folks on the list, but I highly recommend revisiting it for those of you who don't have Repeaters (or even those who do) - it's a wonderful feeling of control to have four tracks, each with a VU level meter, EQ (when in mix) and a fader, and to be able to re-record a few seconds on the fly anywhere in the loop. for cheap! and with that lovable cassette sound (overdrive at will). whee, Daryl Shawn highhorse@mhorse.com