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Dear Kim, I read your post with great interest and have concurred with you on much of what you have said. I have a couple of thoughts in response: What we have here is a community of loopers that is unmoderated (a policy you have been almost militant about). As such most of these posts reflect where the people in this list are at and what they are interested in discussing. I always assume it is loopers speaking and it becomes quite obvious when some one is actually SPAMMING us, gratuitously, so I take it all with a grain of salt. Consequently, I read most of these posts in that context and they don't bother me (particularly when they have the ubiquitous OT brand on them). I'm so busy that I just can't read every post to this list so I do a lot of selective erasing to try and get to the things that interest me........I imagine that I am like most people here in that respect. I also know that I frequently miss some really good shit and would enjoin anyone on this list to post me off-list if they see a particular thread that they wish I would pipe in on.........I do miss a bunch, regretfully. My particular mild beef about Loopers Delight is that I wish there were more discussions about how people are getting creative in a musical sense with their techniques of looping. The creative threads for me have been the ones I"ve loved the most. I was selfishly hoping that people would go to town on the 'using the acoustic guitar as a percussion instrument' thread because it was so 'loop' specific in it's context.............but you can't win 'em all. I now go to the Repeater site and will begin going to the EDP site for specific gear related stuff because it is so much more pithy although the archives here are fantastic (and I repeatedly thank you for everything that you have done to make this available to us all). So, I agree with you mostly and I also think that 'it is what it it' and that is one of the prices we pay for having an un-moderated free community. I was telling someone today at the Flea Market about our community and I was saying that it seemed to me that we actually had a very high percentage of very creative and ambitious artists in our ranks...........higher than any musical genre or style that I"ve ever been associated with.............I guess with the creativity comes the idiosyncracies that make this place occasionally annoying. I direct you to my last post about changing the name of my new looping band as a loving poke at the uncontrollable nature of this website. It's a tad anarchic and I still think of it as an incredible blessing in my life. thanks for allowing it to happen (even when it's irritating). appreciatively yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool)