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Yeah, suddenly that's the going price. The one on Ebay went for $1600, and some local dude around here is now asking for that for his. I've given up, and am now setting my sights on the much more modest, but still old-school fun, digitech pds-8000. I could buy nine or ten of 'em for that! Daryl Shawn highhorse@mhorse.com > saw this listing on h-c:$1650! ouch! the barbara kruger (artist) motto > should be changed to:"when i hear out of production looping tools, i > get out mycheckbook".