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Wow! Daryl, thanks alot! -am very glad you enjoyed the show. Hurray screaming Duets! woohoo! lol! I'm back in Boulder now after spending a most wonderful week in Santa Cruz. Dre and I tried to say hi to y'all during the tour from a wild lil' internet cafe, wonderin' what the list was comin' to in our absence, but alas, it didn't make it. lol! -Glad to see we're talking about looping again... <smile> I'd like to thank Dre, Rick, Steve and Jon, for the amazing music and for such a wonderful time. -Dan, for tour management, and Kim and all of the LD'ers who attended the shows. I truly enjoyed seeing you again, and meeting others for the first time. Re: the Palo Alto performance itself. -again, thanks to Jon, for having me on the bill, and to Daryl and others for their comments. I'm hoping we'll get to hear a recording of the show as it can be difficult to remember exactly what's happening alot of the time. Re: Looper as instrument. Daryl, you commented that rarely did you hear a dry signal fed to a plex. I'll just say for myself, that my sound was just a plain guitar tone with just the slightest touches of reverb and distortion, aside from the occasional turntably stuff with the Space Station, Which I thought was pretty obvious, and which I only tended to use along WITH a loop, all of the loops I created, were very dry and uneffected. If you heard things that sounded like other effects and such from me, it was the looper. <smile> -Like I said, I can't remember alot of it myself, and it's not just the blonde thing! lol! Anyway, Thanks again, to all involved, it was a most wonderful time to be sure... Smiles, Cara At 10:54 AM 1/24/03 -0800, you wrote: > >So last night I went to check out the Looping Fest in Palo Alto, >featuring Rick, Goddess, Andre and Jon. As it was the first time I've >seen an improvisational multi-looper performance, and one of the first >times I've seen such heavy use of an EDP and Repeater, it was kind of a >clinic in contemporary looping techniques for me personally. > >I had a great time, first off! I loved seeing different combinations of >players, as well as percussion instruments - I realized how boring a >standard trap kit can be when compared with all the possibilities of a >clay pot, a steel saucepan, cymbals, tablas, or frisbees (!). The >EDP-mangling was really entertaining, especially when combined with >Rick's facial expressions and Andre's subtle hip-swaying. The high >point was a screaming duet between Goddess and Andre, as the EDP's >provided an evil dub bassline and a ghostly whine, while Jon and Rick >synced up on 32-second note hi-hats and cymbals. Yeah! Each of the >solo sets was also particularly enjoyable, everyone involved clearly has >developed a really unique interaction with their little magic boxes. > >The glitching and repeating was really nuts, to hear and to watch. >Still, as wonderful and musical as it was to hear Rick turn >throatsinging into a children's chorus, or Andre turn a bent harmonic >into god-knows-what, I had to think about the question posed earlier >this week about the difference between an instrument and an effect or >processor....and I came out of this event feeling that looping equipment >isn't really an instrument. An instrument is something that generates a >tone, by definition. And though the EDP can do insane things with any >tone fed to it - you could probably snap your fingers once into a mic, >then entertain a crowd all night with warpings of that initial tone - it >doesn't actually generate a sound. I think this is important, for me at >least, because that initial tone is SO crucial, even after twisting it >every which way. The most interesting and musical things last night >that happened with loops were interesting and musical because of the >source; tweaking it made it exponentially more so. But when a dry or >flat sound was fed to a loop (which happened rarely, I have to say), >processing didn't really take it anywhere, in my opinion. > >I guess my point is that to make good loops with your instrument, you >gotta be good on the instrument. Even if that instrument is a piece of >Tupperware (Rick!), you have to know how to get a good sound out of it. > >For those who feel that an EDP actually is an instrument, I'm curious >whether a turntable would also fit the definition...? > >thanks to Jon, Rick, Goddess and Andre for a wonderful time! I'm bummed >I had to dash off to catch a train and couldn't meet each of you >afterwards. > >Daryl Shawn >highhorse@mhorse.com > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~thefates Please visit BadFiction and The Guitar Cafe. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/badfiction http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the-guitar-cafe