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Well there you go, historically they have been selling the footswitch separatelly and I guess that trend will continue. Does anyone no what if any improvements over the previous hardware architecture they may have made in the new version, because if they haven't then order the previous version from Altomusic /w footswitch and upgrade the chipset to Loop IV. New exterior packaging doesn't necessarilly add more value over the previous version. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Ewen [mailto:andy.ewen@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:52 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: black face EDP pricing (foot controller) Well, you definitely spoke to the right guy. Gil Pini is a top bloke and has been involved in Echoplex sales for years. There is still confusion as some of the shops have ordered EDPs without Footcontrollers and Gibson are indeed going to unpack them and take the F/Ss out. I spoke to Clive @ Gibson UK today and he has asked that I supply them with empty boxes for re-packing the F/Ss, so my flippant comment below turns out to be close to the truth! Official MSRP for the Echoplex+ is $1300 and the Footcontroller is $165. However these are 'A' list products and should be heavily discounted in stores. We don't have the same 'A B C' product listings here tin the UK; when the manufacturer sets a suggested retail price, that's usually what you end up paying. In the US I understand, it's up to the individual dealer to sell for what they like, so I still can't say what you'd expect to pay for both, or indeed one or t'other. When they hit the stores soon, I guess it will all become clear. It's the stores themselves who want to sell the Footcontroller as separate item and that's screwing everything up. Ideally, you should get both units (as they are shipped in the same box), unless you specifically don't require a F/S and then order just the EDP+ as a special purchase....but that'd be too easy :) Sorry I can't be of any more help at this time. Andy. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Wiley [mailto:matthewf5@hotmail.com] Sent: 17 February 2003 04:59 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: black face EDP pricing (foot controller) hey there, i spoke to a guy named gill at gibson friday the 14th and he said that the first units were going to specific stores, so i called the stores and got their prices and they all told me that the footcontroller WAS sold as a seperate item. they may not know that the footcontroller is as you say included. you should know as you are production manager. they must not realize this yet. communication from gibson has been really screwy in the past. i just wish i could find out what the deal is with this whole deal. are the controllers included or not and what is the price w/footcontroller and without. thanks matt wiley >From: "Andy Ewen" <andy.ewen@btinternet.com> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Subject: RE: black face EDP pricing (foot controller) >Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 08:54:23 -0000 > >That was me! I'm sorry to disagree, but I just personally oversaw 200 >EDP+ packed into boxes WITH the footcontroller, (which is now black as >well). I can't believe that Gibson are going to unpack them all, take >out the footcontrollers and sell them separately. For one thing, they >won't have any suitable boxes. Might I ask who at Gibson gave you this >information? They may be getting >confused with the last 100 Beigeface units that we have already shipped >to them. > >I haven't posted anything about pricing yet as I want to be sure to get >the correct information from Clive @ Gibson next week. I will then >inform the list. > >Andy Ewen, >Echoplex Production Manager. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Matthew Wiley [mailto:matthewf5@hotmail.com] >Sent: 14 February 2003 22:15 >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: black face EDP pricing (foot controller) > > > >i have checked and whoever posted saying that the new EDP+ comes equiped > >with the footcontoller is wrong. This info came from gibson and they >said that the units are sold separately, so not such a great deal after >all. > >peace >matt > > >From: Jhsidlo@aol.com > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: black face EDP pricing (foot controller) > >Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:12:17 -0500 > > > > I e-mailed Musician's Friend and the $800+ price does not include >the > >foot controller. This in relationship to a LD post saying that the foot > > >controller was included in the price. > > If there's any store that offers the whole "shebang" for that >price > >range, I might be interested. > > > > > > Ciao, James > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail