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--- David Myers <dmgraph@earthlink.net> wrote: > Can anyone here describe the difference between the > Digitech 7.6 second [and the RDS-8000}? These two kinda contradictary posts are from ye olde LD archive: ************************************************ Subject: Re: RDS 8000 vs. RDS 7.6 (Digitech timemachines) From: pcamann@csc.com Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:02:50 -0400 >>What is the difference? (to the gentleman in the back row,I know one is 7.6 sec. and one is 8 sec.)And they are different in color, but what do the different buttons on the 7.6 do that the knobs on the 8000 do not? << I own one of each, and the short answer to the second question is, well, nothing really. I don't have them in front of me, so I'm going on memory, but the 7.6 has a flashing LED which gives you a visual indication of the start/end of a loop. It may also have an extra control jack or two on the back for setting/synchronizing delay times to drum machines or footswitches. The rotary control on the 8000 (which is a detented pot like the DOD DFX94) does the same thing as the buttons on the 7.6 for range switching. The most important difference is internal -- the 8000 board is _much_ smaller than the 7.6, and has a big honkin' LSI chip for doing all of the delay functions. I believe (someone may want to correct me on this) it is also a 12-bit sampler/delay; the 7.6 is definitely 8-bit. I will now happily unsubscribe and re-enter the lurker's murk... Paul Camann ************************************** and then: ************************************** From: Garry Wasyliw <was@dlcwest.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:25:39 -0600 >From: Pratt Winkle <prattwink2@yahoo.com> >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 08:47:08 >....They sound quite >different! Almost to the point of being bad vs. good. I've now owned them both and agree. The 7.6 is 8 bit and the 8000, 12 bit. The 7.6 was noisy and distorted and as such caused me to trade it off for the 8000. The 7.6 might be tolerable in front of a distortion device, but for clean sounds, it is not very good. The 8000 sounds quite good to me. I'm using keyboards and I kept thinking that there was some sort of level problem with the 7.6. I finally concluded that that was the way it sounded. >The 7.6 has a hum that comes from the unit (not >through the amp but actually inside the unit) I experienced this as well. The hum turns out to be coming from the power transformer inside the unit. I had another device at that time doing the same thing. I was told by an electronics guy that a smaller, cheaper transformer like the one used here will vibrate internally at 60 cycles. I tried a fix with about 80% sucess. It may be of use to someone, but of course, don't try this if you're not comfortable with going inside an electronic device and I can't be responsible for anything that may go wrong if you try it. 1- Unplug the device and open it to access the transformer. 2- Unbolt the transformer and pull it clear of the unit; no need to unhook its wiring. 3- The transformer is comprised of a metal band wrapped around several layers of metal plates. Bend the tabs of the bottom of the band back and bend the band away from the transformer body until you can remove the band. 4- Mix up a batch of two part epoxy. Smear the epoxy over the ends of the metal plates. Put the band back on and bend the tabs back into place to secure the band. The epoxy should be all around under the band and can squirt out around as well. 5- Let the epoxy set. 6- Bolt the transformer back in. You can try putting a layer of rubber material under the mounting surface. 7- Reassemble the unit. Basically this trys to prevent the vibration between the plates within the transformer and may help from a little to a lot. >Some button presses on the 7.6 sends a small >pop or thud to the amp. I heard this too. >Do you think my 7.6 could be worn out yet still working, or did they >just perfect the idea on the 8000? I think your 7.6 is probably working fine. I thought there was quite a difference between it and the 8000. Garry __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/