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I just bought a Titanium also and I'm currently trying to learn enough Max/MSP to write my own live looper. I bought a Digigram VXPocket v2 card to handle the live audio off eBay for about $300. The latency is about 11ms, which is bearable I think. I'd prefer to get about 4ms or less, which is what I get with my PCI cards in my desktop comps, but I expect that it's difficult to do this over the PCMCIA bus. As far as USB goes, I think the latencies will be too high, and although I have no personal experience with it, I hear firewire latencies can be an issue also. I chose not to go firewire primarily because of the expense and the bulk of having to haul around a rack mount. The digigram card is more self-contained. http://www.digigram.com/products/getinfo.htm?prod_key=9000 -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker/Loop.pooL [mailto:GLOBAL@cruzio.com] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 5:44 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LIVE Sound Card choices for Mac Live Loop programs? Hi gang, I would love some off list replies to the following questions if anyone has the time or inclination to help me out. I want to get a breakout box that will allow me to do real time stereo audio input into a MAC Titanium powerbook (800 mghz). No, I don't want an 8 channel in MOTU or equivalent. The Lowest Latency possible with the most inexpensive price is what I'm looking for. I'm a complete newbie to the MAC side of things (being a die hard PC guy for the last 4 years) so I am incredibly naive and unknowledgeable about my options. I have heard that USB boxes (like DigiDesigns M-Box) could have potential latency problems and I want to drive Antares fantastic new audio driven synth, KANTOS with a vocal or instrument mic with the least possible degree of latency. Is firewire the way to go? Are there any stereo firewired audio-computer boxes out there that are both small in size (which is a definite consideration since I will be touring Europe and the British Isles this summer) and somewhat manageable economically? I'd appreciate any and all advise from you loopers. After NAMM, seeing KANTOS, Ableton's LIVE, Steve Duda's Devine-Machine (looping program) and Cycling 74's RADIAL, Ms. Pinky and JITTER I decided to take the plunge (please oh please don't bury me with "I told you sos" from the Mac crowd.......LOL). yours, Rick Walker