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Mark suggested: >I was going to say that the Roland GP100 scores reasonably well on this >front as well. thats right, Mark! It took me a while to find a manual. ftp://ftp.cygnarowicz.com/pub/gp100/GP-100_Owners_Manual.pdf >It has a stereo effects loop that supports placement at >arbitrary positions in the signal chain. and you can choose mono-series mono-parallel and stereo which helps to use two EDPs in different ways >It also has two outputs which can >be helpful as a way to add some final effects is you have another mixer >available afterwards. On the other hand, it doesn't have a looper and it >doesn't have MIDI syncable effects. > >I also really doubt that it's reverb can match Lexicon's. (And 20 seconds >is >nothing. I used to love to crank the reverb time on my SPX90 up to 99 >seconds. Great fun when used in conjunction with the cheap little Korg >drum >machine I had at the time.) yes, seems its limited to 10sec only :-( >Although discontinued for some reason (I'm sure findable on ebay) >the Digitech 2112 and 2120 have a pretty good effects loop. >Although it's insert point is fixed, it's after the preamp. Useful >for looping. ok, in general... but I need at least the pitch shifting and preferably modulation and crazy effects before the loop! >I've tried the EDP in it with good results. I actually compared >it's distortions/preamp to the Lexicon G2 and it's no contest. The >Digitech blows it away. does that mean its better? >Time based effects are another story... this means they are not as good, I expect... > >Mark Thank you Matthias > >on 3/2/03 2:06 PM, Matthias Grob at matthias@grob.org wrote: > > > Thank you everybody for those informations. >> >> It reinforces my impression that this unit is especially suited for >> looping since: >> - it has a looper in it >> - it can send and receive MIDIclock to sync this internal looper to an >> external >> - it has a insert between two effect stages for the external looper and >> - you can choose for any effect to be before or after the inserted >looper. -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org