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i've used open loop answering machine tapes for years in the act. and for every day of every one of those years, i have asked myself: "why does a cassette that has only (30,60,90) seconds of tape in it, only one procketed gear, and no leader cost $5, while a tape with 90 MINUTES of tape in it, 2 real gears head and tail leadered go for $2?" hmmmmmm..... a:c > quoth: Scott Hansen <scott-a-hansen@uiowa.edu> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com last night i hooked up my old tascam 4-track tape recorder and had a 20-sec loop tape (from radio shack) in it. <