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> > any ideas? > yeah, get used to it. pretty much every professional person i know who has tried to use one has given up on using it live. they simply won't hold up physically that is, won't hold up to touring. as long as you personally handle it yourself and put it gently into the back seat of your austin-healy bug-eye sprite , you may not have any problems. but put it into an expensive shock rack and let the union guys load and unload your gear for a month or two, or (god forbid) put your rack into the hands of the airline industry for a few interenational flights and your troubles begin. understand that i have had the same gear in the same rack for six(?) years and the echoplex is the only piece of gear to break. period. and even after sending it to Shane at gibson (who i'm sure struggles valiantly with the machines.) it still will not work consistently. i know a couple of other pros who have simply given up on having them fixed. it's a huge hassle. i think that the EDP is the coolest best live looping device ever made (hell, i was an endorser). but i can only surmise that corners were cut in the beta testing (i.e. it was only sent to folks who didn't tour much) and manufacturing. i know it's not the kind of answer you are looking for. umm maybe it's a bad pot... love you steve. i think i'm coming to england this summer...interested in playing together? monkman