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Great heavens, no! I have a very hard time discarding old, loved tools---and the DL8000R is still in heavy rotation... In fact, I didn't mean to imply that I'm using, or even planning to use, the KSP8 as a looper, just that it has enough delay memory, and ample flexibility, to be a serviceable one, along with its stupendous fx. That would suit me, tho, since I consider myself more of a sound-design type than a looper, despite my fondness for looping. I'm quite satisfied with short loops (that I usually post-process) as opposed to using the looping tool itself to restructure or complexify the looping process, tho I'm getting intrigued. And I definitely prefer delays to samplers as looping tools. So, since you asked, I'm also using a UD-Stomp, and the multi-tap algorithms on both an Eclipse and the KSP8 for a variant that I call looping; those rhythmic patterns that I mentioned in my little review (also a fabulously implemented on the DL8000....) David <<So, David, does this mean you've abandoned your Korg units? Mark >>