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At 3:29 PM -0700 4/9/03, Rick Walker/Loop.pooL wrote: >Serendipitously, on my latest live CD, the last piece features >the crowd clapping which I then morph into a clapping loop in >7/4 > >Clapping must be in the air. A favorite trick of mine is to play a recording of applause, but to sneak it in gradually so the audience aren't aware of it. They just keep clapping because they thing everyone else is. Curiously, my first-ever multitrack tape manipulation used applause. It was for a student film, back in 1970, and I wanted some applause behind the end credits. I went into the largest lecture hall at MIT, just before an undergraduate physics lecture began, and asked for a few minutes to record the students. I got a few minutes of assorted crowd sounds and then did multiple overdubs of the applause with slight speed differences between them to beef it up. We had no multitrack reel-to-reel recorder (we used mono Nagras for location recording), so I used a set of three Magnasync dubbers - those big old decks that used 16mm sprocketed mag film. The major studios would have 30 or more of these for all their multitrack mixing during the analog era. "Synchronization" was a looser concept in those days, since the time resolution depended on the distance between the sprocket holes. At 24 frames per second that's about 40 msec between sprockets. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com