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The kids are out destroying the neighborhood so I got to spend some time messing around with LoopCopy and MoreLoop parameters. I'm finding setting MoreLoop=4 and dynamically tweaking LoopCopy (on/off/time) as inspired opens up a much bigger world of loop exploration particularly in the realm of foundation grooves. I'm ashamed to say that it has taken me this long to find this out; but happy, all the same, that I did. Setting MoreLoop<=4 seems to give enough memory to the partition to allow for some undos if you have multiplied the original cycle in subsequent loops. Of course this leads into questions about what a stereo edp setup w/bass on the other channel could do.....</ grin></ chuckle> Have a nice weekend, everyone. Jeff P.S. Sonic Blender:A Looping Event is happening very soon. Peter will be posting an announcement soon about this, but you guys may want to look at http://www.randomsalt.com/events/sonicblender.php to get some info early about who is playing.