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I just grabbed one of Guitar Center's blow out Echo Pros. (Thanks, Mark!) I haven't been using the looper because I'm pretty much a hardcore EDP user, but the echo models are really sweet. Not as rhythmically complex as what I can do with my DL8000R, but very pleasant sounding. But, of course, you knew that since you have the DL4. The benefit of using the Echo Pro or the DL4 if you can live with its lack of feedback control in the loop is that with two of them you have the option of using one as something other than a looper. I would not count on being able to get them to function as a stereo pair, however. I also have to say that from a pure convenience standpoint the floor modelers beat the rack effects. The Repeater is an intriguing instrument, but if you don't pitch shift or time stretch, it's largely going to waste. I've been meaning to ask Bill Walker whether it's the Repeater or the Repeater plus the arpeggiator in his GR-30 that he loves. The most interesting thing I found to do with it during the brief period I owned one was to put a basic loop on two tracks and then switch to the other two tracks with feedback significantly reduced. That way part of the loop stays stable while another part needs continual renewal. I've head your music Stuart (and promoted it to others). You've done very well with the DL4. I think your future is probably better served with either multiple DL4s, multiple Echo Pros, or an EDP (though you'd need multiple EDPs to get more than one loop playing at once or stereo). Mark P.S. I had to take the floor model to get the $199 price because that was all they had left. A few scratches in the top and no box, but otherwise it seems to be fine.