LOOPING on MAINFRAME Computers -- WAS: TRIVIA QUESTION reply to Dr Richard Zvonar

["David" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net>]

You're shitting me!!  People were looping on DEC PDP-11's !!!!!!
Oh my God.

What a thought.  Hey, was anyone looping  on DEC 10's or DEC 20's??  What
about looping in MVS/DOS/VSE/ on IBM/Amdahl/Hitachi mainframes??

Anyone??

David


----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Smith" <geoff.smith15@btopenworld.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: LOOPING TRIVIA QUESTION reply to Dr Richard Zvonar


> on 27/4/03 5:26 pm, Richard Zvonar at zvonar@zvonar.com wrote:
>
> > At 11:16 PM +0100 4/26/03, Geoff Smith wrote:
> >
> >> Do anyone know what the first looping pieces were to use digital
equipment.
> >>
> >> i.e. the first pieces of looping music made using the lexicon 
>pcm42????
> >
> > Pauline Oliveros was an early adopter of the PCM 42. She initially
> > used two of them, one for each register of her accordion. That would
> > have been early 1983.
> >
> Thankyou, I have been reading her book 'the roots of movement' which
> discusses her use of the PCM 42 and how she used it in her Extended
> Instrument System. Good confirm that she was one of the first though.
>
> >
> >> Still trying to get contemporary classical artist Jim Fulkerson
> >
> > I think he lives in Holland.
> Yep and he's coming to my college in a few weeks as part of the Barton
> Workshop.
> Definitely a great player, who made me re-think the potential of the
> Trombone.
>
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> >DoES anyone know what the first looping pieces were to use digital
equipment.
>
> You said
> "The first digital looping pieces would have been done on mainframe
> computer music systems in the 1970s and early 1980s. I can't think of
> any specific works at the moment, but I know that I myself was doing
> some live looping on the VAX  11/780 at CARL (Computer Audio Research
> Lab) at UC San Diego in 1981-82. There are several loop-based
> sections in my theater piece "soul murder" (1982)."
> I MUST LOOK AT YOUR WORK MORE CLOSELY!!!!
>
> You said
> "The real hotbeds for this early work were CCRMA at Stanford, IRCAM in
> Paris, and a few other research centers such as University of
> Illinois, MIT, and others. I have a few contacts if you want to
> pursue it."
> I WOULD DEFINETLY BE INTERESTED IN PERSUING THIS.
>
> you said
> "BTW- the first tapeless live looping I heard was an improvisation by
> the Electric Weasel Ensemble in 1976 at Cabrillo College in Santa
> Cruz, using Don Buchla's new analog delay line. Several of the
> performers had the flu, and Don captured some coughing and mangled it
> live."
> YOU ARE AS ALWAYS A FOUNTAIN OF KNOWLEDGE, HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF
WRITING
> A BOOK ON THE SUBJECT????
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
>
>