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Don't get suckered in on the MIDI thing. I don't think the UD-Stomp syncs to MIDI clock which is a lame choice on Yamaha's part. My comment about Line 6 v. Yamaha wasn't just about the UD-Stomp. The DG-Stomp also never made significant inroads against the Pod despite some very positive reviews. Line 6 has very good distribution. It was hard to find dealers carrying the DG-Stomp and even harder to find dealers carrying the DG-80 amp. I just got an Echo Pro (thanks to Mark Sottilaro pointing out the blowout prices). As a looper, it doesn't compare to my EDP. But the delays are very sweet. The features I would have really liked for it would be: * Longer delay times (if it's got the memory for a 60 second loop, it ought to be able to have delays longer than 2.5 seconds) -- 5 or 6 seconds would have been sufficient. * A hold function. That way I could get all of the interesting decay effects but then I could hit the hold switch and let it sustain for a while. Lack of that feature creates a dilemma for me with respect to replacing the DL8000R in my mobile rack with the Echo Pro. Mark on 5/3/03 12:59 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann at healthquestrecruiter@earthlink.net wrote: > DL4 and UD? Different boxes--I think the reason the DL4 is more popular > than the rack version (Echo Pro) is the stomp box interface--but the UD > delays aren't really long enough to loop IMO--'course my 32 sec Jamman >gave > me fits--I spell relief E-D-P. > > The new Boss loop pedal might be cool--but the DL4s are selling at the >same > price as two years ago . . . > Gary