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Dylan, If I read you correctly, you want to set up a MIDI sequencer to a specific tempo and length and then record into it live? This seems like a common enough trait of many of the sequencers out there, though I only have experience with the Emu XL-7/MP-7/Proteus 2500 variety of command station. It's not a MIDI looper by my own definition of looping which would include some sort of feedback level to allow the sounds to fade out as new lines are being added. Though it seems like it would do everything you are asking for. Tap tempo, live record, overdub, and erase, multitrack like the repeater though in this case you have 16 tracks to choose from, adjustable loop lengths and bar/time signature changes, and much more. I'd stay away from computers at this point, Emu is making a pretty solid and dependable product these days. Of course mixing the synths together can't be done by the sequencer, it needs a line level mixer (I know you probably know that, just making sure...) Stephen <<<<<<<<<are there any hardware MIDI loopers out there? here's what I want to do: I want a unit, let's call it a "MIDIrang," where I can tap a tempo (and a loop length, for instance 8 beats or something) then feed it a line from a MIDI controller. and i want it to repeat that line (through the MIDIrang's MIDI output) so i can feed it to a bunch of synths and mix the outputs of those synths together. I know the MS2000 and other synths have step sequencers that would repeat a pattern like this, but the pattern can't be created or replaced on the fly (aka LIVE)... or can it? any ideas? MIDIrang where are you???? P.S. i guess a software option could be cool too. somebody I think mentioned an opensource or free MIDI looper a while back, any other options? Thanks! - dylan>>>>>>>>> __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com