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Looping stuff (was RE: why pot before looping?)



Cool!  Looping!  K ...

So, everybody share a looping technique or recipe.  Mmmm, recipe.  Even the
simplest, dingiest one .. I've gotten a lot of mileage out of those.  
C'mon,
it's cool ..

So, one thing I really like to do is set the feedback of my repeater to 0%,
take an arppegio and play alternate intervals of any given arppegio every
other bar, varying the progression slightly over time.  Hanging on 1st,
5th(or flat5, if you're that kind ..), and M7th/8th and then 2nd, 4th and
m7th (trilled) is nummy ... I like just arbitrarily picking two different
collections of intevals, finding a feel, and then after a bit, changing one
thing at a time every cycle ..

*hand cupped to ear, like a puppy*

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Zoe Keating [mailto:cello@zoekeating.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:05 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: why pot before looping?


How marvelous it must feel to be so right.

Can we get back to the important subject at hand now...how do ya'll
compose/perform in a live setting? It's a subject that will be more
interesting to everyone else on the list and less interesting to Mr.
Ashcroft.


From: Paulzric@aol.com
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 21:16:46 EDT
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: why pot before looping?
Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Resent-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 21:16:51 -0400




Only drug users defend using drugs. All drugs are a cop-out. It may take 
one
years
to figure it out, but I have never watched a drug user who continues to use
drugs do
anything with his/her life. I have only watched countless, and I mean
countless,
musicians who spent (and still spend) all of their energy buying kine bud,
getting
high morning, noon, and night, forget gig dates, forget phonenumbers, 
forget
key
changes, forget their ass, hook the outputs out of the inputs, forget how 
to
route a
VST wrapper, play their basses drenched in reverb and delays thinking it
sounds
cool, stop after setting up a TON of equipment to go get stoned and come
back
and 'noid out in front of their gear, choke when speaking to the
audience...the list
goes on. All of my former band members use(d) pot in excess and will defend
it
more loquaciously than anything I have read here are still only successes 
in
their
own personal hall of fame. As a matter of fact, my former drummer has a
horrendous
smokers hack and he aint smokin' cigarettes. All pot users will voice their
opinions
in favor of pot exactly like the denizens of the Isle of the Lotos Eaters.
It's the same
predictable, self-serving, stoner bullshit that I have heard for years. I'm
through
writing about pot. It's a trap. Give it up if you use it and rejoin your
human mind.
The psychedelic thing is really something else. Psylocibin fungus on your
neurons.
Big deal. So you join the fungus phylum for a while and realize "wow, this
is a planet." Yep. It's a planet. Okay, now what?
Cocaine? Pure craziness and a capitalists wet dream.
Heroin. More madness.
LSD? Okay, so maybe--maybe--if you're lucky, you get some real LSD and 
pitch
a no-hitter. So what. It isn't you. It is you on the drug. Once is cool, 
but
like anything,
you get hooked and can't perform without it and you are a great big fake.

Musicians who can only perform high:
Any repeated behavior results ina  refined performance. So if you are a
musician
who repeats behaviors while stoned, then you will learn and only be able to
reliably
replicate these behaviors while stoned. It is a trap that the body has
created for
itself. The only way out is to quit and relearn. That's it. Disagree all 
you
want, but it's all in order to vehemently defend a crutch.
Recreational drug use is for cheaters.
Now, I highly doubt anyone reading this is a shaman or some other bonafide
mystic,
otherwise you'd not be bothering with internets and mailing lists and
musical
equipment, but rather be preparing a medicine bag with animal bones or
divining water
with a stick or whatever a true shaman does. I believe that the sacred
substances
of this planet belong to them and to them alone. All these kids driving
around in
Mustangs, smoking pot, going to class and staring vacant eyed at me (yes,
I'm a
teacher and I see firsthand just how fucked up people are who use drugs, 
how
self-deluded and seduced by their peer structure and support system and the
whole
hunter/gathering routine) are plugging up the psychic ether for the rest of
earnest
people who would rather meditate and get to know the wonders of the 
universe
without a barrage of confusion and sloppy intention. They can't retain and
can't learn.
I have not had one kid who supported pot do better than ones who do not.
Period. The pot users always give themselves away, at least in my classes.
It is so easy to manipulate a discussion in order to discover who favors
pot. It's hilarious. And the ones who obviously have never seen it or are
still so innocent that they haven't tried simply do naturally better at
everything: their memory works, they are present, on time, alert, etc.
I'm through. I can't convince anyone to stop. All I can say is there is no
valid rationalization an active drug user can offer in defense of his or 
her
self-
destructive, mind-altering blackhole of a habit. None. John Lilly, Terrence
McKenna, Timothy Leary, Norman Mailer, Poe, Hunter S., that freak Crowley,
or the countelss
musicians who have used drugs could have done so much more without. The 
body
degenerates all by itself. A few doors opened by drug use is fine. 
Sustained
and
persistent use is a trap. I am telling you, read Isle...

Now those who have bothered to read this entire message will hopefully
discern a
distinction between active, defensive drug users and those who have dived
deep
into the thickest of it, seen far-out (man) and wildly neurotic/exotic
places and have come back only to realize..."fuck...that was cool but it
can't last." Because, my
good brothers, one has to come to realize that any drug dependency is a
trap.
Dependency is a trap. The best kind, perhaps...but a trap nonetheless.
Amen.