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>> Im looking at my 2 8 unit racks and thinking there most be something >> moe compact i can use. I have the urge to move around a lot latley, >> so i was wondering what compact guitar rigs people are using ? The key to small rigs is to give up a one or more things such as stereo, post-loop processing, or number of simultaneous loops. For my "small" setup I use a Boss GT-3 on the floor, and a four-space rack with a power distributor, an SM-26 splitter/mixer, an EDP, and a RDS-8000. This gives me two independently mixable loops with no post processing. I still have an open send and return option on the SM-26 with this setup, so I could patch in a pedal-looper, such as a PDS-8000 or the Zoom 504 or Headrush. Everything goes out to either the house PA or a single amp, a Roland KC-300. If you want to keep the option of post-loop processing, you could replace one of the rack loopers with a processor and maybe swap out the inexpensive SM-26 for an SM-82 or any other 1U mixer with actual effects send and returns. So, you'd be looking at two boxes (GT-3 and rack) and your instrument to carry in from the car in one load if you're using the house PA. If you want to go way micro, you could use a floor-based effects setup and two pedal loopers off your stereo outs, and just avoid hard stereo imaging. TravisH