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I looked up LIVE LOOPING in the Oxford English Dictionary and found this: LIVE LOOPING: A musical movement begun in the late 20th and early 21st century that was comprised of many different musicians from disparate styles who used repetitive digital and analogue technology to augment their musicians musical vision. Controversial at first, because many of the musicians who used the technology could not agree on what to call it, it came to existence due to a series of Salon like Festivals that were produced all over the world in the early part of the first decade of the 21st century. While never achieving mass popularity it , nevertheless, made a strong impact on modern popular music and the music of films and modern dance. I'm being facetious of course, but my point is this. Matt Groening's character, Homer Simpson kept saying the word 'DOH' and people kept using it (even though it was entirely fictitious) until sometime a year or so ago, it was added to the Oxford English Dictionary. I keep saying this: WHAT IS, IS. Live Looping exists as a movement because we've put energy into it: Pure and simple. It is not easily defined because it is so all inclusive (within the caveat that it's adherents use modern analogue and digital looping techniques as the prime and ONLY unifying metaphor). You know, I've never been a part of a community that celebrated more diversity, musically than that of say, the Y2K2 LIVE LOOPFEST in Santa Cruz last year. People played Tubas, Cellos, Guitars, Percussion, Saxaphones, prerecorded Compact Discs, Acapella Vocals. They performed music that included avante garde, ambient, folk music, serial repetitive music, jazz, world music. They played solo, in duets, trios and even an octet. They used repetitive techniques that relied on dedicated digital live loopers (Echoplexes, Jammans, Line 6 DL-4s, Boomerangs, Headrushes,old school, short loop Digital Delays,Eventide Harmonizers, Boss Loopstations and forgive me if I've forgotten anyone else's specific gear). One group of guitarists from the Robert Fripp school played interlocking repetitive rhythms acoustically in real time (perish the thought)..............lol. The overall feeling of those two days was one of strong community. Not everyone who attended felt it (obviously from Kim's posts) but then again not everyone who attended a Be-In in the late 60's in San Francisco felt a part of the hippy movement either, but there was a palpable sense that something was happening and it was fun and inspiring for the bulk of people who both attended and who paid to get in ($1,700 of income was generated at that event which was generously given by the performers to the struggling Cayuga Vault which was not too shabby for a fledgling movement). Perhaps the best analogy (and perish the thought that there is no precendent for this self professed movement) I can think of would be the Impressionist movement in the late 19th century. There were many painters associated with that movement who hated that they were included in it. There was also a tremendous stylistic diversity if you look at all of the painters associated with the movement. It may not be a precise term for describing what got created, but the term was invented; the galleries used the term as a way of publicizing and selling the artwork. No matter what anyone thought about the movement or whether they felt included or excluded, defined by it or confined by it................it existed and exists to this day. Despite what Kim says about the potential exclusivity of LIVE LOOPING, I say, that anytime that I produce a festival, inclusivity will be one of the strongest definers. Andre LaFosse and Matthias Grob will both be welcome and encouraged to perform despite how differently they use almost the exact same type of gear. Some of you may be pissed off that we're doing what we're doing and that's okay. I won't exclude you from performing at any event that I try to produce. I promise. Come. Please. God forbid, you might have fun and feel accepted by your peers. I don't take umbrage if you don't want to participate at all. It's all really o.k. WHAT IS, IS. I want to have fun. I want to have a community. I want to loop. I want to promote the fuck out of it all so that I and other loopers can actually make a living doing it, someday. I need a handle to market the whole shebang. I chose LIVE LOOPING. WHAT IS, IS. I feel like I have the right to do what I am doing because I think that it is an inclusive and positive mission. I don't feel judgemental of loopers who don't want to participate or be confined by the term. I don't feel superior to anything. What we are trying to accomplish is entirely benign. It's all okay. I hope you can come perform or attend the Y2K3 LIVE LOOP FESTIVAL in Santa Cruz in late September or early October. I'll let you know the dates when I complete my European tour in the beginning of August. yours sincerely, Rick Walker