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Dear Kim, dear all, I agree to some extent with Kim's criticism of an overly use of the term 'live looping music', but only in a longer perspective. In fact I feel that at this point in time it might just be a perfect promo tool to lift our individual and common efforts off the ground. Case in point: in preparing the Berlin Live Looping Meeting on July 4th in Berlin as part of Rick's summer tour I had the first real serious conversation with the man in charge for the German/continental distributor of the EDP whom I tried to hook in vain a couple of times before (just recently for the Frankfurt fare 2003 in combined effort with Matthias). Dunno, but it might just have been a good step towards finally getting them to do something for the promotion of the EDP. Just as a realtime audio looping device can be a useful tool for live musicians, composers, music students/teachers, DJ's and more one musician can do a lot with and without these things. Without musicality and creativity any new technology become stale. But for example a jazz player could get wider recognition for his/her use of a looper in his/her community when it becomes known that there is a dedicated scene and maybe even an audience for looping as such. But of course I see the danger of a novelty thing rubbing off soon. So I'd say do one thing without leaving the other, and most importantly focus on good music. When I work on my solo programm which includes a lot of loops I make a conscious effort of avoiding the dangerous cliche of monotonuousness (sorry, that's MONOTONIE in German) that I often find irritating even in the advanced and very interesting work of, say DT or Andrč. That means I try to work with extensions of my own live audio without the typical scent of the Holy Church of Ostinato. Also I try to keep a good chunk of my live material strictly solo guitar with minimal sound effects. Peace, Andreas Willers