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Re: developing musicians and a musical culture

Coltrane practiced like a muther-fuck hour after hour after hour after hour
starting at a very early age.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: developing musicians and a musical culture

> John Coltrane's a great example to bring up when trying to make the point
> musicians are more creative when they don't know anything...
> Daryl Shawn
> highhorse@mhorse.com
> > I really think you're wrong here...scales and chords can only get you 
> > far, as well as can stifle musical creativity.  I have played guitar 
> > 9-10 years, and I know a few basic scales and just chorforms that i've
> > either picked up or made up, but I do not at all think that I would be
> > better off creatively if I knew more.  The most creative guitarists are
> > ones who bend and even break traditional music theory.  Some of them
> > the theory and some of them don't even know which "rules" they are
> > IMHO, we are totally limited by twelve-tone equal temperament.  There's
> > reason to stick to eleven octave divisions except for the fact that 
> > been the norm for the past few hundreds of years.  Ever hear someone
> > integrating microtonality into western music?  It's amazing, and mostly
> > reliant on people who do not wish to grasp those scales and chords.
> > is no "proper place" where someone should move their fingers to.  I
> > that putting more creativity into the music, and playing what *you*
> > sounds right is a total substitute for the "fundamentals".  I forget
> > which jazz musician said it, I think it might have been Coltrane, 
> > no wrong notes".