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I like both. Warm yummy crunch of tubes and new interesting sounds. I think the best sonic manipulation can happen when you start with a great tone to begin with (pick pre-amp of choice) and then add the craziness. My biggest influences have all decided to use a nice tube pre in their system and after years of experimenting, I do admit I like them too. On the other hand, I leave my tube amps home and gig with digital modelers. They are plenty good enough for me at a gig and much lighter. Mark Sottilaro On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 07:29 AM, Scott Hansen wrote: > yes, i will say that when i was listening to david's demo cd of the > reaktor 4 as gtr processor i thought: "if you're a > vintage/tone-guru/tube > preamp is KING/etc" type of person, i was thinking that you > will not like david's demo cd. and if your idea of "enough > filter" is a nice old crybaby wah, then again, you probably wouldn't > like it. > but if you're like me, who's never owned one of the classic vintage > tube amps that "all the biggies play", and like to hear new > sounds, it's a fun cd to listen to. > s--- > > > > > >> Perhaps I should have been clearer. These mp3s were actually offered >> to a >> Reaktor-Composer's forum, as part of a different dialog. I mentioned >> them >> here only because they ARE extracted from the R4 demo CD I made, but >> they're not typical of the 25 or so minutes of demos on it, since >> each of >> these is a ramble thru a single effect preset, as opposed to the bulk >> of >> the demo, which is many short passes thru many different presets of a >> bunch >> of Reaktor virtual processors. So, if you want a better idea of the >> range >> of R4 FX, send me an address and I'll forward a copy of the whole >> thing. >> >> Even so, the point of any of these tracks is NOT Reaktor as a preamp >> or amp >> simulator...it's the FX. >> Reaktor4 now includes a guitar-amp/speaker simulator, but I didn't >> bother >> to demo it since I'm not interested in using the computer to make a >> guitar >> sound like a guitar. The preamps I used include VG8/88, PodXT, and >> GT6, so >> I guess our tastes in preamp sounds differ? I hadn't even considered >> that >> that would matter. I also prefer hardware for some stuff, but I've >> ditched >> a couple of mpx1's and Vortex's along the way in my exploration of >> digital >> fx, and don't miss 'em at all. Reaktor outshines them, for my >> purposes, in >> every conceivable way. >> dc >> >> >> >> >> >> mark >> >> <sine@zerocros To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> sing.net> cc: >> >> Subject: Re: Reaktor 4 as gtr processor >> 07/22/2003 >> 04:13 PM >> >> Please respond >> to >> Loopers-Deligh >> t >> >> >> >> Hmmm, I'm listening to the samples... and I'm a bit unimpressed. >> They're at a high bitrate, yet they sound thin... were you going >> directly into some A/D converter when you made this? I'm curious to >> know the recording process... sounds like the guitar wasn't put >> through >> a good preamp or something. >> >> Other than that the effects sound interesting, but for $500 I'd just >> as >> soon get a couple of Lexicon Vortexes or a used Lexicon MPX1 and free >> up my CPU for other stuff. Maybe I'm just old school but I like >> dedicated hardware for some stuff. >> >> Mark Sottilaro > > > -- >