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Thanks Ted As always you are one of those great resources we have here I had actually contacted Alan Hoover around 5/23 this year asking if he would sell me a leftover or refurbished model b. Essentially he said no and that it was possible but, that he prefered that I wait until the model c was released and buy one of those. I do wish he could have made the original projected deadline but, will wait and see if it comes available soon. Al Kroeger -----Original Message----- From: ArsOcarina@aol.com [mailto:ArsOcarina@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:08 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Sustainiac Hi there Loopsters, In a message dated 8/7/03 10:27:38 AM, nospam@developsolutions.com writes: >Anyone here have any thoughts on the acoustic version of the >sustainiac? Well, I've been using one of the original Model B units for about 20 years now. Hear samples of what that sounds like at: http://www.mp3s.com/tedkillian Alan Hoover, a former LD list member is still in the biz and is now making a new and improved Model C version even as we speak. I spent a good deal of time in his booth at NAMM last January trying it out. As for the model B, I started using it before the in-the-guitar systems were available. However, I play a Gibson with humbuckers and am rather fond of my neck-position Duncan SH-2 "Jazz" pickup and never would've been willing to trade it out for something else to begin with. Plus the outboard Model B can be used on several of your instruments if you can attach a magnetic headstock bracket to them. This way you are not stuck with only having one particular dedicated "sustainiac" instrument. The Model B which I use is essentially a large(ish) stomp box with a 50 watt amp in it and footswitches on top for controlling it and knobs for adjusting things. Your guitar signal goes into the input and passes straight on through to one output that continues downstream to the rest of you signal chain just like before. There is another output though that sends you signal (much amplified) to a transducer held by magnetic clip installed on the back of your guitar's headstock. This little transducer (essentially a speaker coil without the paper cone) reintroduces the physical vibrations of what you are playing back into the body of the instrument. You don't have to play with distortion or anything to make it work. Just dial in the right amount of feedback "level" (usually the point where it just starts feeding back, but I take it just a little further and use my hands to control the excess vibration by the manner I hold the instrument neck and mute the strings at the bridge). My sustainiac is "on" about 90% of the time. If you hold both switches down the switches "latch" on instead of being in "momentary mode." I then toggle between even and odd harmonics with the footswitches as suits what I am playing. The new Model C that Alan is now making switches automatically between even and odd harmonic modes and works pretty darn well. The new box is smaller and uses a more efficient amplifier and a smaller, lighter transducer too. He also has worked up a new wiring system for connecting the unit to your guitar. I keep meaning to buy one as a spare for my original (I'd be lost without it) but as I am a family guy there keeps being other things to spend money on . . . like kids . . . and as the economy relay sucks right now, my business has been slow to nonexistent. So, no toys for Ted for a while (heheh). That should about cover it. For further questions go to: http://www.amptone.com/maniacsustainiac.htm Or write Alan Hover directly at: info@sustainiac.com He's a very nice fellow, super helpful and knowledgeable. Tell him I sent you and maybe he'll forgive me for not having bought that Model C yet like I told him I was going to do long before the economy crapped out on me (heheh). Anywho, tell him "Hi!" for me anyway. Best, tEd R kiLLiAn http://www.mp3s.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html