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I like that feature and hate it. Sometimes I get so into what I am playing that I press the overdub button instead of the play button and wipe out the nice layers I have constructed :) I'm too used to the DL4 I guess. Regarding the DL4 vs. Echo Pro -- the DL4 is definitely easier to use and I've found that messing with the delay time to adjust the pitch sounds a lot better and is easier on the DL4 than it is on the Echo Pro. -----Original Message----- From: Travis [mailto:tiktok@sprintmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 9:28 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Subject: RE: cheap tape echo The other significant feature difference is that the Headrush allows you to set up a starting loop, overdub on top of that, and then when you've had enough, remove all the overdubs, taking you back to the starting loop. It's an "undo" that wipes everything except for your first patch (which can be silence if you want). Though for what the original poster was looking for, the DL-4 seems the obvious choice. TravisH On Saturday, August 9, 2003, at 09:18 AM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > > Line6 DL4. The Headrush can't do it. There are in fact only a few > things the > Headrush does which the DL4 can't do. One are the four separate > outputs of > the Headrush (which come in handy if you want to use different effects > on > the different echo taps - but you'd need a big big mixer or a patchbay > or a > setup which limits you in your flexibility for this), the other one is > of > course the maximum delay time of ~21s...