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What, are you on drugs? Demoted to esoterica is dead in my book. Hard disk recording didn't kill tape? It sure did. When was the last time you saw a tape based looper in a store? When was the last time it was manufactured? Sure, there will be die hard people who will still hold on to old technology, but as a mainstream thing it will be gone. I can't remember when the last time I saw a cassette for sale. Vinyl is dead to most consumers and only pressed for DJs who still cling to it because of it's certain characturistics. Guess what? I'm reading more and more DJ publications where hard core vinyl fans are moving to the digital side due to new CD decks like the Pioneer CDJ1000 and the Denon DN-S5000 which give all the flexibility of vinyl with the ability to burn a CD with anything you want in it and not have to lug crates of vinyl around to each gig. The Pod may not have killed the tube amp, but I'm sure it's made a dent in it's hull. Fender and Vox are making virtual tube amps. I use a Johnson and I love it, dare I say, almost as much as my Ampeg. Virtual tube emulation is still new, give it time. I'm sure it will make tube gear less and less viable for many manufacturers. Will DJ Spooky be selling all his vinyl soon? Not likely. From a manufacturer's point of view it's mostly dead though. We could argue for days about the merits of old technology, and there are many. Some resurface, like analog synthesis. However, lots of people look at the new Moog synth with it's wood sides and say, "I'll take the Korg MS2000 for 1/5 the price of the Moog thank you." BTW, They Might Be Giants use a wax cylinder recorder on one of their songs. Pretty cute. Mark Sottilaro (who'd pay $200-$300 for a software looper that did what he wanted) On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 07:22 AM, Travis wrote: > Near as I can tell, nothing in the music gear industry ever gets > killed, except for maybe wax cylinder recorders.