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Its as if you were talking about me, here. I may suffer the dilemma between building and playing the instrument more than most. Am I being a musician by creating my sound first? But will I be able to be a musician ever, since I did not spend much time in studying music? Its sad to feel rejected sometimes by musicians who realize that I never know in what scale I am playing - if they consider it a scale... but then there are a lot of people who did not study music themselves but fully react to sound. Its some energy that has to come through somehow. Sound is the primary level, melody and rhythm base on them. There are many more levels of organization and aesthetics, and we can chose in which we want to work most. If we manage to develop a good sense for what positive thoughts and relieve of pain, power for work, we can induce, so, even if you dont play that smart stuff, you can be useful, what more do you want to be happy? But you have to bring a good sound. It does not take musicians to hear out of tune notes, lack of flow or wrong volume. So thats where I start. I also studied some harmonies and scales in the past, but now I play relative only, as often as possible just hearing the intervals between the notes I have been at and the ones I hear I should go to. Sometimes I dont quite hit them, I must admit, but, this people dont seem to hear, so... anyway, it seems to work reasonably, I just dont have the energy to promote it - because I still rather want to build new instruments... so yes, it can be a trap. Once we choose a part of your instrument (pick strings pickup body cable amp effects reverb looper whew...), we may stay for a long while and care for other parts and for playing. Its not about having the best, its about knowing the best how to talk through it! Am I abusing this list as my personal therapy session? LOL Cara, that was a strong paragraph. And here you have another one I love: > What I don't understand, is the desire for more and more and more of a >"better" something that may not even be defined yet, to create something >that one isn't even aware of, and doesn't seem to be going toward now. >Dreaming is wonderful and so very important, but this sounds like a very >aimless and nameless pseudo-need to me. > Why would I want 15000 EDP's in a box when I have absolutely no need >for it, and furthermore, haven't met anyone who has mentioned that they do >either. -or seems to be pushing the boundries of modern music and art to >such an extreme that that even appears to be a need on the horizon. f**ing 15000... wow, and all BrotherSynced? Codependent... -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org