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What you quoted looks like std ascii text to me. The original message looked fine in my yahoo viewer when I got it. Greg --- msottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> wrote: > Hey, I keep getting posts of jibberish (see below) Anyone know what > that's about? My email client deals with html (which I can see that > this is not), RTF and Plain Text, but what the hell is this? > > Mark Sottilaro > > On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 05:08 AM, Don Makoviney wrote: > > > >>>2) Someone like me who comes from a traditional music > > >>background (blues > > >>>and > > >>>jazz) automatically thinks in terms of traditional song > > >>structures like > > >>>A-A-B-A. How many people on this list have actually tried to loop a > > >>>traditional verse-verse-chorus-verse song? I've been working > > >>at it for a > > >>>year, and it's frustrating. The Repeater fixes the bar > > >>length with the first > > >>>recorded track, so forget an AABA song where the "B" section > > >>is a different > > >>>number of bars, unless you want to get into a Midi pedal tap dancing > > >>>nightmare of arming and switching between loops. > > >> > > >>seems to me your problem is specific with the repeater, not > > >>looping. That's > > >>simple to deal with in the Echoplex. The boomerang might be > > >>able to do it > > >>too, I'm not sure. The jamman had the same problem of forcing > > >>all the loops > > >>to be the same length. > > > > Yes Kim, you're right. The Boomerang allows you to have two different > > loops of size. I use that a lot. Guys like Keller Williams write very > > simple AABA songs using an Echoplex. Blues, bluegrass, funk. All that > > stuff. Loopers work great for more traditional stuff. Check out DJ > > Williams too. > > > > > > >> > > >>>And then there is the > > >>>problem of the "crash to a singularity" when you've built up > > >>a looped > > >>>"A" section with bass, rhythm guitar and lead, and then > > >>suddenly move > > >>>to naked guitar on the "B" section because it needs a new > > >>bass line and > > >>>new rhythm chords. If you're not working in the ambient soundscape > > >>>style, you can't hide these transitions with washes of delay > > >>and reverb > > >>>tails. > > > > Keller Williams also does this well. He builds up a section then just > > stops the Echoplex and goes to a single live (unlooped) guitar and his > > voice. It's pretty powerful and works well. I believe the EDP also > > allows you to copy over to other loops so when you get a good simply > > stacked loop (i.e. bass drums and a rhythm for example) you can copy > > that puppy to another loop, right? (I'm just going off what I glean > > from the lists. . .I don't own one.) On my Boomerang I can switch from > > recording a loop to b loop with one button so I often just keep > > playing the same thing (like a bass line or guitar riff) onto the > > other loop too so I have two loops of the same thing. It's not as easy > > as simply COPYING a working loop like with the Echoplex, but I didn't > > spend the extra few hundred for the EDP (dang it). It requires a > > slight bit more maneuvering and forethought (like maybe remembering to > > also play the next couple of things I stack on the B loop too), but it > > works in a fairly logical manner. > > > > Mark, seriously, check out Keller's live album called "Loop". There's > > some great stuff on there in the "traditional" style you seem to come > > from. He uses an Echoplex. > > > > HTH, > > > > Don M > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com