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Ahhh, now that the thread name has changed I feel so much lighter............lol. I bought three Jammans (which I changed immediately to Jampersons with a little graphic computer manipulation...........................oh, I can just hear the poor east coast loopers moaning over this flaky, PC, west coast behaviour) for $200 each when they got discontinued. They became Jamperson #2 and #3 in my rack and one I bought for another musician. I thought I was the most sophisticated looper on earth at the time............LOL.............hadn't even heard of that phenom, David Torn then..............................yeppers...................I had me three Jampersons with an archaic Akai midi mapper set so that in concert with another Jamman owner, they only had to signal me and I could make any of my three loopers the main instrument or let them do the loop driving, as it were. Jamman #1 was percussion/voice...........#2 was bass guitar and #3 was what ever other melodic instrument I was playing on the piece. that purchase convinced me that I could actually go out and do a solo show for the very first time................having been a support drummer/percussionist all of my adult life, that was one hell of a liberating concept. Now I got's me an EDP, a Repeater, two line 6 DL-4s and I don't even get the Jamman's out anymore (despite the enticing and fabulous work that Max Valentino is doing with his Bob Sellon upgrade chip that so enlargeds the jammans capacity. I do have to say this about the Jamman: it had rock solid midi clock going both to and from the unit. A used one is still an inexpensive option for a midi syncable looper if you can't step up to that big boy, the EDP. Rick