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>>>"If you're playing with other musicians, and the collective tempo shifts, and you've already recorded a loop with tempo-dependent information, then I don't see how you can "adjust" the loop. "<<< So why try? why not adjust the musicians? When it comes to playing along with Loops, some people 'get it', some people don't. If you have a listen to my duo CD with Jez Carr - 'Conversations', he clearly 'gets it' dispite never having done any looping at that point himself. He just understands that the establishment of the rhythmic framework is down to the looper. The alternative is to use loops that don't require other people to be in time with it - I quite often put down loops of all kinds in group situations that even if they are rhythmic, aren't dependent on other following the same rhythm. That's a tricky one to explain, but it works. At the risk of turning this into a plug for my CDs, my next album is a duet CD with Theo Travis, a looping sax/flautist, and we're quite often both using fairly rhythmic unsync'd loops without any sense of them being 'out of time'. I had a gig last weekend with a keyboardist call Patrick Wood who likewise was great at hearing where a particular loop was going, what it implied or didn't about the rhythm of the piece and responded accordingly. As a result, we had a great gig! :o) Drummers are harder to deal with in this respect, as they are used to being the band metronome, but I've even met kit players who can follow a loop... BTW - at the gig with Patrick, it was very nice to meet up with David Swain - it's always fun to put a face to a LD personality! :o) cheers Steve www.stevelawson.net