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This is starting to sound really interesting, exciting, warm and cozy. I would definitely use it a lot. It reminds me of the Hitchhikers Guide project @ http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/DontPanic-Tour Doug - have you tried looking at http://www.cgi-resources.com/Programs_and_Scripts/Perl/ for other options as well? :::-----Original Message----- :::From: Doug Cox [mailto:dougcox@pdq.net] :::Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:53 AM :::To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com :::Subject: Kwiki Loopers Unite? ::: :::Kim and The List, ::: :::My adventure into a .php-based Yahoo-like interface to index audio, cd :::reviews, and user profiles has run into some snags. :) Namely, there's :::nothing out there that's free, has the features we need, and runs on the :::platform that the LD site supports, that isn't going to require some :::significant surgery to deliver the ideas we've discussed. ::: :::At least I didn't think so. Until I took a closer look at Bernhard's :::post, :::and his demo Kwiki site. :::http://www.xmlizer.biz/cgi-bin/LoopersDelightReviews/kwiki.cgi ::: :::Kim - I don't know what you'll think about this idea, and that's key, :::because LD is *yours*, and I don't want to insinuate anything different. :::However, I am going to go ahead and post this idea to the list to see if :::there's any interest in it. I'm sure you'll post your thoughts as well ::::) :::that will guide us to the right decision. :::====== :::Dude - this Wiki thing is awesome. When I got frustrated with php this :::morning, and diverted my attention to Bernhard's demo Wiki setup, I found :::an :::interface that could *really* step our "virtual community" up a notch in :::terms of communication, archiving, helping each other and informing :::others. :::As Bernhard has demonstrated in the last couple of days, each person with :::an :::interest to do so, can take the things they've gleaned from the list, and :::*easily* post them in appropriate areas of the Wiki site. Yeah, I know - :::very Open Source Project, etc. But much simpler and straight to the :::point, :::flexible, and customizable. ::: :::So in the last hour or so, I've: :::- Reorganized the start that Berhard made to the site :) Now, this is an :::interesting point: I did this for my own brain, and because I knew that :::it :::would be ok in these early stages. But, I also wanted to demonstrate :::something about Wikis: they are totally open. If I wanted to move a :::link, :::drop a link, destroy the data on a page, etc., I could. There are ways :::to :::continually backup this data, and Bernhard may have them turned on, but :::that's still a risk. :::- Organized the LoopingArtistsoftheWorld section to sorta integrate with :::the :::*current* profile system. See my comments below about how this might be :::the :::best way to "update" the system. :::- Exported a 10/20/03 version of the profiles database to a table on a :::page, :::so that you can text search for anything across all of the data. Kinda :::clunky, yes. But gets the job done nicely. Note that this data is old, :::and :::doesn't include the "Comments" data from the profiles. :::- Using that table, started building a TexasLoopers page :::- Setup a looping audio page, where people can post links to music, and :::describe it in a way that we've discussed. ::: :::Bernhard had already setup the "Reviews" section, and it's a great start. :::Easily modified and added to, as people decide it should be so. ::: :::Allowing LD list members to organize their own views into the profile :::system :::(or any other archive at LD, for that matter) seems like it might be a :::smarter way to "upgrade" the system than a new piece of software. The :::big :::table helps the search process (Kim, send me the latest db, and I'll :::update), and people can use it to build their own organized links. Like :::my :::attempt at a TexasLoopers page. ::: :::So, yeah, now the controversies. :) Beyond the fact that it's wide open, :::I :::think a site like this would end up having a "spider" like quality, :::reaching :::it's little appendages deep into the various pages of LD - links to :::posts, :::links to the profiles, file library, tips/tricks, etc. It could also :::have :::various people's summaries of concepts they are interested in. All of :::this, :::organized by some sort of emergent, chaotic life force, as members of the :::list interact using their own simple motivations... ok sorry - got :::carried :::away. ::: :::I think you can see that I consider this idea a *good thing*. What about :::everyone else? Have you looked at the site? :::http://www.xmlizer.biz/cgi-bin/LoopersDelightReviews/kwiki.cgi Would you :::use it the way I described? Even occasionally? Could you see it :::building :::something useful, in combination with the LD site... or do you think it :::would end up being a waste of time? ::: :::I'm with Bernhard - let's discuss! Or better yet, just start a page or :::two? ::: :::http://www.xmlizer.biz/cgi-bin/LoopersDelightReviews/kwiki.cgi ::: :::Dig ::: ::: :::