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well, we practice tomorrow and thursday. maybe i'll have some presentable material by friday. i have to admit, i'm sort of anxious to see how you guys respond to it, and it might be nice to have some informed feedback before we actually bring it out on stage. i'll see how it goes. lance ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francois LEBRUN" <fr.lebrun@free.fr> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: RE: technique described it sounds quite strange and I cannot wait until you have some sample of the result somewhere on the web, so that I can listen to it, and figure more clearly what it really sounds like. Please, if you do have some samples, don't let us wait until November ... Francois -----Message d'origine----- De: Lance Chance [SMTP:lrc8918@louisiana.edu] Date: mardi 21 octobre 2003 17:20 À: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Objet: technique described Hi all, I wanted to share a technique that I've been developing for looping live spoken word. It involves myself, my buddy Aaron, and a poet named Skip Fox, and a looping rig. The rig is primarily comprised of a Digitech RDS 3.6 Rack Delay, an Electrix Filter Factory, and an Electrix Repeater, plus an 8 channel mixer and some secondary effects like verbs and mic preamps and such. I would like to make particular note of one of the pieces of gear. The RDS 3.6 is an old 80's rack unit which basically encompasses all of the time based effects including delay, as well as flange, chorus, something called "double" and it has a "hold" button which provides up to 3.6 seconds of loop. It's old 12-bit tech but the sound is quite warm. The thing that it offers, that no modern unit seems to, is a smooth delay time control knob. When a loop is on "hold" you can not only turn the delay knob to produce very smooth pitch changes (I mean, not a single click), but you can switch up to flange and chorus and produce a rich tunable saw wave. I know that it is a contradiction in terms but the people who have heard this effect describe the unit as being very "analogue-ish". Most of the people here know what a Repeater does, but I'll just mention that it is a 4 track looping device with a lot of other features. The Filter Factory is an analogue filtering device with the usual suspects like low, band and high pass and different oscillator choices. I think that the only really specifically needed unit would be the RDS 3.6 or maybe it's big brother the 6.2. I'm sure software based multi track loopers would be fine and filter boxes are everywhere. The technique is comprised of the following series of processes. Skip begins to read, the signal is split and one signal feeds a dry channel on the mixer and the other feeds into the RDS 3.6, which I control. I choose a word or phrase to "hold" and start the loop. In a way that is perceptible and apparent to the audience, I tune the captured signal up and down, then after I am sure that it is obvious to the listener what is happening, I modify the signal beyond recognition. As per the description of the RDS, I can make not only low garbled bass pulses and chipmunk sounds, I can create tunable tones and stutters. The delay signal feeds into the Filter Factory and there I can further sculpt the sound, creating nice "Moog-ish" tones or buzzy bleeps and scratches. I enable the filter only part of the time allowing for the dry delay loop to be extensively featured. The filter out is split, one out to the mixer the other to the Repeater which is operated by Aaron. During the my performed modification of the RDS, Aaron is catching loops and remixing them, tuning them, time stretching them, creating rhythms from stutters and generally modifying the hell out of every thing. The Repeater then feeds into the mixer. What results is a multi-timbral, orchestrated sound bed where I create low, mid, and high frequency signals which Aaron then places in context with each other on different channels. The really exciting thing is that Skip has been reading the whole time and is by now responding to the tempo and mood of the sound Aaron and I have created, which in turn makes capture that much more interesting. There is no "feedback at 100%" and the whole thing is constantly changing and moving. A couple of notes about performance: Usually after Aaron captures my modified output, I "de-morph" the signal in a manner that is obvious and pronounced to the listener till the original loop is apparent, then I kill the "hold" and catch something else. Skips original voice is on it's own channel and is always distinct and audible with the rest of the sound back behind it. I also have a separate track for my mods. The point is to insure that the listener can hear the transition, so that it is obvious that the whole raging mess is coming out of Skips live voice, before their very ears. The experience is incredibly jazzy and the improvisation and artist interaction is beyond anything that I have ever experienced in a looping project. It's like live spoken word remix. It is a very performance oriented project and we have to rehearse and practice our "instruments". We are going to do a show in early November and I'm going to bring my DAT, I'll put a sample up on my page then and I'll probably come begging for feedback. I'd enjoy comments now, even. Getting Loopier, Lance