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Lexicon PCM-80 (expanded) Line 6 Echo Pro i use the PCM-80 because i wanted a nice clean hi-fi looper for stereo unsynced ambient stuff. it excels ... but only if all you want to do is sound like Bob Fripp. no reverse, no restart, no half-speed. no BPM-timed looping lest you have alot of patience and a calculator (the internal math for BPM calculations sucks). it can do multiply though, and with proper external or internal modulation of the master delay percentage you can get some great stuttering/glitch effects. i use the Line 6 cuz i saw one for 200 bucks and i was curious. i haven't the money for a second PCM-80 yet ... but as soon as i do i'm gonna nail it. --- Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com