Re: boring old qustion about foot controlling the echoplex

["Doug Cox" <dougcox@pdq.net>]

Mark,

 

Check out Per's post on some good ideas, once you get the basic interface working.

 

First, the bad news:  the FCB1010 can ony send it's Note On/Off messages on a single MIDI channel.  The MIDI channel for the Notes is global.

 

This is bad for you (and me, for different reasons: I have 2 EDPs) because:

- the FCB doesn't treat CC commands as "momentary" switches, like it does Notes.  I.E. it doesn't send "on" CC values when pressed and "off" CC values when released

- therefore, you have to use Notes to control the EDP, transmitted over one global MIDI channel

- therefore, you can't easily use Notes to control anything on any other devices

 

So, once you get this going, you're going to need to think about how to get Notes to your Repeater for pitch changes, while also using Notes on the EDP, and not having them interfere with each other. 

 

But first, I suggest not trying to plan out banks and MIDI routing for now, turn off your Repeater, and just get the FCB talking to the EDP.  Then you can get a feel for what you like, and how to program the FCB.

 

To that end, if you leave Source # at 36, then Record starts at Note 38, and things go up from there.  The values are in you EDP manual. There are newer and more powerful capabilities in the Loop IV upgrade, if you have it.  The values for those are in the upgrade manual.  Sounds like you don't need any help programming the FCB for Notes.  Hell, that's the hard part!

 

Some things to consider:

- make sure your EDP is on the same channel that your FCB is using for Notes (sounds like channel 1 in your case)

- to get things started, I suggest going straight from your FCB MIDI Out into your EDP MIDI In. That will help eliminate MIDI routing/filtering problems that might be happening.  I have no idea how well behaved the Repeater is when passing MIDI data through to other devices.

 

Some things to consider when you get it going:

- check out the FCB1010 Yahoo group

- find out which EPROM version you have, and upgrade to the latest version if needed

- try out the FCB1010 patch editor available at the Yahoo group

 

I'm out of time.  Hope that's of some help.

 

Doug

----- Original Message -----

From: mark francombe

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:04 PM

Subject: boring old qustion about foot controlling the echoplex

Hi,

having probs finding what I need in the archives, but Im sure it must be there.. heres the Q.

 

I have a repeater and use a fcb1010 pedal to control it. TOday my shiny new EDP turned up and I really need to get them buttons under foot control and fast!!! BUT Im having trouble. The manual is a little all over the place. AND I still want to use the FCB to control the Repeater... is this a prob???

 

Ive selected NOTE in control/source, Ive left the default Source# as 36 (why would I change it???) and gone in to the FCB1010 and made a note preset on 2 (D or "record"). It has no effect on the EDP but (of course ) the repeater changes pitch cos the repeater uses NOTE info to change the pitch... I cant seem to figure out how to change the midi channel on a specifc pedal,(well actually it cant) and therefore the whole pedal is set to channel 1.(Which I am using for repeater).

 

Now I AM getting midi to the EDP cos it was synching to my drum-machine no prob, The pedal doesnt seem to do anything on it tho... even if I ignore the repeater prob...

 

Now IM SURE that many of you have exactly this config, One looper not being enough as everyone knows, so do you all really use a different foot controller for each looper???

 

Pleas Help, I KNOW im missing ALOT about the EDP without foot control, If I have to dump the repeater from FCB1010 control I would do it, cos I still have one of those little digitech puppies that actually worked fine... BUT REALLY I WANT BOTH!!!

exasperated Englishman in Norway

 

Mark.