RE: HuMaNiZiNg cold DRUM MACHINES

["Glenn Poorman" <glenn.poorman@autodesk.com>]

I use a Boss DR-770 but it only gets used on a fraction
of my tunes. My setup allows me to use the machine in one
of two ways. The stereo output of my Stick runs into a
stereo line mixer as does my synth output (controlled by
the Roland pickup on the melody side of my Stick) and my
drum machine. Each channel on the line mixer has a send
for the effects loop. The effects loop of the mixer is
running to two EDPs (right to one, left to the other for
stereo). So at any given time, I use the sends to control
what gets looped and what doesn't.

With the drum machine, mostly I don't loop it but instead
use the EDP to start/stop and sync with it. Mostly, I have
entire songs pre-programmed but do occasionally just let
a pattern go until I shut it off. Another thing I'll do
once in a while if I'm improvising is to NOT sync the EDP
to the drum machine but, instead, turn up the send on the
drum machines channel and manually feed some percussion
into the loop.

Creative use of drum machine in a performance is an area
that I admittedly need lots of work in. One thing I try to
do though is avoid programming lines that are supposed to
sound like a drummer. Fills and cymbal crashes are just a
couple of examples of things you'll probably never hear.

Glenn

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Louie Angulo [mailto:laab2000us@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:29 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: HuMaNiZiNg cold DRUM MACHINES
> 
> I would like to know how many of us loopers are
> utilizing drum machines live.Some people shy away from
> them because they tend to sound sterile and
> repetitive, others sequence the patterns so they donīt
> sound so repetitive but i find a lot of people still
> find this live "not very authentic"...
> I had a lot of fun playing with Rick and watching him
> syncronize his voice drum loops to mine, he is
> brilliant at building organic drum loops with his
> voice, utensils etc. but at the same time i enjoy
> hearing Claude Voits drum machine syncronized pattern
> changes triggered by the EDP.
> I tend to just let a drum loop run from my Boss dr 660
> and constantly record new loops into the EDP, using it
> simply more like a backing track but i would like to
> use it more intuitively and make it more spontaneous
> to my  live loop improvisations.
> so i would like your
> opinions,techniques,recomendations is a sampler better
> than a groove box ? or a drum machine? Which ones 
> work well with the EDP and how do you employ them
> live?
> Louie