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Funny that you should bring this up. I just brought my old drum machine out of the closet and decided to start using it again a few months ago. I've used it in a couple shows so far, but each time I've used it, it's been the center of my attention. I use a Dr-660 (Dr. Rhythm) which, if you use it the way it's supposed to be used, sets the stereotype for cheesy bad drum machine sound. I spent a lot of time designing really unique-sounding "drum kits" on it, and very rarely use the presets. One of the first things I did when I got it was get rid of all those awful bongo and cymbal sounds and replace them with something I don't feel I have to apologize for if I hit that pad. When performing with the drum machine, I almost never use pre-created percussion loops. I create them in real-time, often turning the beat correction on and off to suit my needs. (I like my drum machine loops to sound sloppy but have recognizeable rhythm.) Sometimes I press the keys randomly with the beat correction turned on to create an initial random-but-rhythmic loop, then build from that. Performing a drum machine in this way is a unique looping experience, since you can easily remove any single sound from your loop, even if it was one of your original layers. Once I have a good loop going, I alternate between adding/subtracting to it, and improvising with "record" turned off, often changing the parameters of each drum (like pitch) as it goes. I also apply a lot of effects to the output, since even when you build your own kits, they tend to sound like pre-sets. I found that additional echo/looping pedals tend to get a little too messy, so I settled on running it through my Dr. Sample, using the Dr. Sample specifically as an FX unit. (With the SP-303, you can quickly toggle between 6 different fx pads, one of which can be one of 20 different fx. It includes band-pass filters, bit-rate decimation, pitch shifter, and a number of other fun things.) So far, the main challenge has been to set my loops to be in time with other players. I'm not very good at dialing my tempo to match other things going on. It'd be nice if I could get some sort of tap-tempo thing going on. Matt >Louie Angulo <laab2000us@yahoo.com> done wrote: > >I would like to know how many of us loopers are >utilizing drum machines live.Some people shy away from >them because they tend to sound sterile and >repetitive, others sequence the patterns so they donīt >sound so repetitive but i find a lot of people still >find this live "not very authentic"... _________________________________________________________________ Shop online for kids toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com